SPOILERS The Colour of Magic Discussion *Spoilers*

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Cheery

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Plus, the early novels feel very fresh. I don't mean that the later novels feel stale, it's just a different vibe. The later novels are more grown-up, in a way. I read the later novels for feels, action the clever jibes at humanity. And the earlier ones for the colourful, chaotic fun and chuckle-moments.
 

RathDarkblade

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Hmm ... I thought TLF had a stronger plot than TCoM. TCoM tends to ramble on a bit, but that's OK because Pterry was finding his feet in the Discworld and thinking about where he could go with it. :)

Some bits (like Cohen the Barbarian) became long-term features that recurred again and again. Others -- like the Wyrmberg -- did not. But they were fun. :)
 

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Vetinari would probably:

1. Either get it shut down as a threat to A-M; OR

2. Organise it better. ;) For a start:
a. No uncertainty. Either dragons exist or not.
b. A definite end to the squabbling and infighting.

The rest is up to Vetinari. If he wanted to run Wyrmberg as a classic evil tyrant -- dragon rotas! :mrgreen: On Tuesdays, you, you and you fly down to terrorise these villages. On Wednesdays, you, you and you do.

OR, if he wanted to run it for the good of everything -- no dragon flying unless necessary! :mrgreen: And dragons can now only be used to start bonfires! ;)
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Carrot would definitely try to arrest everybody, while Vimes would be aghast. ;)
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Moist von Lipwig would boss people around and run the whole thing more efficiently, but with lots of charisma (as he usually does). ;) But then, giving Moist that much power is a frightening thought.
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Nobby and Colon would flee ... and maybe run into some knights on a holy quest. =P
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Rincewind would roll his eyes wearily and say "What, again?" while Twoflower takes pictures busily in the background.

... and so on ... :)
 

raisindot

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On the other DW forums I frequent, there seems to be a correlation between favorable opinions of the first two books and how much one likes Rincewind in general. Personally, I find him and the the Rincewind books to be tired repetitive glorified travelogues and Rincewind himself a one-joke character who doesn't develop at all. I'm very glad that the first DW books I read were those in what I call his masterpiece period (for me that period starts with Feet of Clay and ends with Thud!). If I had started with COM I probably would never would have finished it or go on to other books in the series.
 

Cheery

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There's a good point you're bringing up. I find Rincewind a delightful potato wizard. And the joke doesn't get old for me. But if you don't like Rincewind, then I see that those books really aren't enjoyable. Since he's front and center.
 

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Er, Cheery: what do you mean by "potato wizard"? *curious* Are you referring to his love of potatoes, or do you mean what they call "hedge wizard" (i.e. a wizard who does not specialise in any form of magic - unlike diviners, summoners etc.)? :)
 

Mixa

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Vetinari would probably:

1. Either get it shut down as a threat to A-M; OR

2. Organise it better. ;) For a start:
a. No uncertainty. Either dragons exist or not.
b. A definite end to the squabbling and infighting.

The rest is up to Vetinari. If he wanted to run Wyrmberg as a classic evil tyrant -- dragon rotas! :mrgreen: On Tuesdays, you, you and you fly down to terrorise these villages. On Wednesdays, you, you and you do.

OR, if he wanted to run it for the good of everything -- no dragon flying unless necessary! :mrgreen: And dragons can now only be used to start bonfires! ;)
==============================
Carrot would definitely try to arrest everybody, while Vimes would be aghast. ;)
==============================
Moist von Lipwig would boss people around and run the whole thing more efficiently, but with lots of charisma (as he usually does). ;) But then, giving Moist that much power is a frightening thought.
==============================
Nobby and Colon would flee ... and maybe run into some knights on a holy quest. =P
==============================
Rincewind would roll his eyes wearily and say "What, again?" while Twoflower takes pictures busily in the background.

... and so on ... :)
hahaha I'd love to see all of this :roflmao: I actually reread "The colour of magic" a few weeks ago and I didn't remember a thing about Wyrmberg! I totally agree with everything the three of you said... You can actually tell this book is the beginning of someting with a great potential. I'm not a massive fan of Rincewind myself, but, on the other hand, this time I enjoyed it far more than the first time I read it :p

Mx
 

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