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  1. One Man Bucket

    Snuff

    They're more than close enough IMO. You mustn't underestimate the fact that she views herself as his dog. If Carrot wasn't content and wanted to move things further along she'd go with it. Since he seems to be willing to let go at a fairly slow pace the only person who can put spurs to their...
  2. R

    Snuff

    I'd agree that there are no other characters in the Watch capable of carrying a story, so any future Watch book would have to be an Angua/Carrot story set largely outside A-M - see previous post, though Vimes has indeed taken other officers in the past, and they have been political choices...
  3. R

    SPOILERS Jingo Discussion *spoilers*

    Vetinari did step down voluntarily. He's far too powerful and resourceful a ruler to be forcibly removed from power if he doesn't want to be. If he didn't want to relinquish control, he could have easily stayed in. After all, Lord Rust and the AM army are complete military neophytes. As an...
  4. Jan Van Quirm

    SPOILERS Jingo Discussion *spoilers*

    Warning - Godwin's Law moment approaching :lol: I see it more as an issue of scale and orientation. :P In a certain light, especially a German one, Hitler was a statesman. He pulled a former empire (just that, not evil necessarily in that they fell into far, far worse aggression and...
  5. swreader

    SPOILERS Jingo Discussion *spoilers*

    Rob, I agree with most what you said. If polis is "man of the city" and politican is similar (according to Vetinari), politics is not by definition (as you seem to imply Christa) a dirty word. But neither is it positive. It is simply having to do with "the people". What I think Pratchett...
  6. Jan Van Quirm

    SPOILERS Jingo Discussion *spoilers*

    The Klatchians were planning to kill/attack Cadrem's brother anyway (it wouldn't have mattered too much whether he died or not TBH, it just needed the attempt to happen) and Leshp was certainly fortuitous in that it gave A-M more of a reason to be on the defensive at that point even if Leshp...
  7. swreader

    SPOILERS Jingo Discussion *spoilers*

    Jingo is one of my favorite books, although I think it has some odd weaknesses.(more about them in later posts) I think that my reason for rating it so highly is that it's the first book I read which showed Terry's ability as a satirist in revealing the absolute stupidity of racism and wars in...
  8. MongoGutman

    Storyhangers

    ...is that rights only apply to democracies - in a Tyranny/Dictatorship/Theocracy no one has any "rights" (except the man in charge)... maybe it could be side-stepped with a declaration starting - "Lord Vetinari has decreed that all citizens of Ankh Morpork are endowed with the following rights..."
  9. Jan Van Quirm

    2012 DW Convention ~ Cripple Mr. Onion Card School

    Lord V's possibly my fave character but to me he's not a Watchman - like I said he's much more than that. He's a universal figure - he's literally the President of Discworld by default, 'cos he's the best and most cunning politician and, as he's pointed out to Vimes more than once there's a...
  10. Quatermass

    SPOILERS Small Gods Discussion *Spoilers*

    ...therein are pretty good. Of course, much of my own attitudes towards deities is closer to what Terry Pratchett put into the mouth of Lord Vetinari in Unseen Academicals, and which one of the members, I noticed, had in his/her sig. It was along the lines of, if there is any deity...
  11. Tonyblack

    SPOILERS Making Money Discussion *Spoilers*

    ...Originally published 2007 Introduction Moist von Lipwig was such a success at changing the fortunes of the Post Office that Lord Vetinari wants him to do the same for the Royal Bank of Ankh-Morpork. Moist resists but ends up being a dogsbody – literally! What is the secret that...
  12. R

    Moist von Lipwig - love him or hate him

    Yes, I actually suggested this awhile ago and was generally disagreed upon but I do think that's his goal. Vetinari understands that the "old ways" are going by the wayside. The Ankh Morpork of the future is going to have to abandon its reliance on guidds, which tend to stifle creativity and...
  13. DaveC

    SPOILERS The Colour of Magic Discussion *Spoilers*

    Vetinari already seems to know Rincewind in The Last Hero, so is that because if had heard of him in Interesting Times? Or because it was him in CoM?
  14. mystmoon

    SPOILERS The Colour of Magic Discussion *Spoilers*

    Of course, there is the theory that Vetinari isn't the Patrician in COM, and Rincewind is instead threatened by Mad Lord Snapcase
  15. R

    Are you a Vimes or Carrot (Wo)man?

    ...meets, including Nobby, trolls and dwarfs. This is why everyone (but the werewolves and certain stuffy AM nobs) likes her and why even Lord Vetinari inevitably bows to her will (although he generally agrees with everything she suggests). If she didn't have charisma, she never would win the...
  16. Dotsie

    Are you a Vimes or Carrot (Wo)man?

    How did Vetinari force Carrot to go in any way? He might have guessed that Carrot would go after Angua, he might also see it as a bonus, but nothing he did forced Carrot to go. And to pour cold water on your earlier arguments, Vetinari (who you seem to think is always right) agrees that...
  17. P

    Are you a Vimes or Carrot (Wo)man?

    This exchange can be taken more than one way. Why didn't Vetinari agree with Drumknott? So what did Vetinari smile at? Could it possibly be he smiled because his manipulations had born fruit?
  18. R

    Are you a Vimes or Carrot (Wo)man?

    The real question is: Did Carrot ever really know WHY Angua left before he left AM? All we know is that he got a note of some kind, that I always presumed to be simply a "Dear Carrot" letter, i.e., "I'm breaking up with you and am leaving the city." He chased after her not because he was worried...
  19. P

    SPOILERS Monstrous Regiment Discussion *Spoilers*

    ...um yes he did. In Jingo! :lol: It was only a talking point because nobody had said anything for the last 4 days. :roll: :lol: If you calculate the distance between London and Bagdad in nautical miles it's 2,216 miles. Compared to Vimes saying 2,300 miles, it's pretty damn close. 8)
  20. R

    SPOILERS Monstrous Regiment Discussion *Spoilers*

    While there certainly seem to be specific references to Iraq (like "Shock and Awe," perhaps the second stupidest phrase to emerge from the war other than Bush's wildly inaccurate "Mission Accomplished" statement), I agree with Jan that the whole thing isn't based on Iraq. Without re-quoting...

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