Unseen Academicals - Revelation!
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Welcome Bushman. No doubt about it, Pterry is playing to stereotypes with a world of women's fashion dominated by gay men/male dwarves. The twist is that these two are far from rarified fashionista's but more streetwise and tricksy.
As for Bengo Macarona, I thought the implication was that he was, ahem, ambidextrous, as it were
. in fact, open to new and exciting experiences of any species or gender...
Ooh, Matron!
As for Bengo Macarona, I thought the implication was that he was, ahem, ambidextrous, as it were
. in fact, open to new and exciting experiences of any species or gender...Ooh, Matron!
Hi all. Long time reader of the books but new to your forum here. (long time listener, first time caller)
I agree about the professor, and acknowledge that Pepe is both human (dwarf by adoption sort of thing) and a right bastard, but I am almost as confused about his sexual identity as I was about my own once upon a time. Is he bi, gay, or straight, simply acting a part for the purpose of sales?
And regarding Madame Sharn where do you reach the conclusion that she is a cross dresser and not "truly" female? What hints give this away?
It seems strange, but I really want Pepe to be gay, as he is a beautifully stereotype shattering character if he is. Kinda like Willem Defoe in Boondock Saints.
BTW, Draywoman, you have an AWESOME tagline.
I agree about the professor, and acknowledge that Pepe is both human (dwarf by adoption sort of thing) and a right bastard, but I am almost as confused about his sexual identity as I was about my own once upon a time. Is he bi, gay, or straight, simply acting a part for the purpose of sales?
And regarding Madame Sharn where do you reach the conclusion that she is a cross dresser and not "truly" female? What hints give this away?
It seems strange, but I really want Pepe to be gay, as he is a beautifully stereotype shattering character if he is. Kinda like Willem Defoe in Boondock Saints.
BTW, Draywoman, you have an AWESOME tagline.
Hi and welcome Herron
Page 386 Unseen Academicals Hard back.
Pepe: I've never seen such a large cheeseboard. It almost makes celibacy seem worthwhile.
Madame Sharn: Oh, do you think so?
Pepe: No. By the way, have you noticed that very tall wizard giving you the eye, my dear?
Madame Sharn: That's professor Bengo Macarona. (who is gay) Do you think he -
Pepe: Without a shadow of doubt, my dear. I know he's hurt his legs, but I doubt if that would be a problem.
Page 388
Pepe: I am an old bugger. I am a sod.
Page 386 Unseen Academicals Hard back.
Pepe: I've never seen such a large cheeseboard. It almost makes celibacy seem worthwhile.
Madame Sharn: Oh, do you think so?
Pepe: No. By the way, have you noticed that very tall wizard giving you the eye, my dear?
Madame Sharn: That's professor Bengo Macarona. (who is gay) Do you think he -
Pepe: Without a shadow of doubt, my dear. I know he's hurt his legs, but I doubt if that would be a problem.
Page 388
Pepe: I am an old bugger. I am a sod.
Y'know, oddly enough, I read that over a couple of times and just never clicked it fully. lol
And the Bugger statement I took to mean more of the generic vulgarity form of the word, rather than the literal sense. But i guess with everything else it makes more sense literally.
And thank you for the welcome as well
And the Bugger statement I took to mean more of the generic vulgarity form of the word, rather than the literal sense. But i guess with everything else it makes more sense literally.
And thank you for the welcome as well
You know I have read this book 3 times and listen to it about 6 times and I knew that Pepe was in love with Madame, but I never thought in a million years that they were both gay until I read this thread.
I had an idea that Pepe was gay or maybe Bi since you don't know what sex dwarfs were and Pepe could like that bisexual bend to it. And I wondered why if Madame was straight why was she interested in Bendigo. Now knowing about the 'Bugger and sod' it makes sense. I guess being a Yank (no pun intended) I missed out on that.
Now the book makes more sense and I might need to read it again soon.
The only thing that confuses me is when Madame is telling Glenda about being a female as a King, but being a Queen then he/she is king. But that makes sense. Being an old 'Queen'! OH! an A-HA moment! An Old QUEEN!!!!!!
This is why I love Terry. All the little hidden gems and Jewels () you can find after many readings and picking aparts!
I had an idea that Pepe was gay or maybe Bi since you don't know what sex dwarfs were and Pepe could like that bisexual bend to it. And I wondered why if Madame was straight why was she interested in Bendigo. Now knowing about the 'Bugger and sod' it makes sense. I guess being a Yank (no pun intended) I missed out on that.
Now the book makes more sense and I might need to read it again soon.
The only thing that confuses me is when Madame is telling Glenda about being a female as a King, but being a Queen then he/she is king. But that makes sense. Being an old 'Queen'! OH! an A-HA moment! An Old QUEEN!!!!!!
This is why I love Terry. All the little hidden gems and Jewels (
) you can find after many readings and picking aparts!
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You know I have read this book 3 times and listen to it about 6 times and I knew that Pepe was in love with Madame, but I never thought in a million years that they were both gay until I read this thread.
I had an idea that Pepe was gay or maybe Bi since you don't know what sex dwarfs were and Pepe could like that bisexual bend to it. And I wondered why if Madame was straight why was she interested in Bendigo. Now knowing about the 'Bugger and sod' it makes sense. I guess being a Yank (no pun intended) I missed out on that.
Now the book makes more sense and I might need to read it again soon.
The only thing that confuses me is when Madame is telling Glenda about being a female as a King, but being a Queen then he/she is king. But that makes sense. Being an old 'Queen'! OH! an A-HA moment! An Old QUEEN!!!!!!
This is why I love Terry. All the little hidden gems and Jewels () you can find after many readings and picking aparts!
I had an idea that Pepe was gay or maybe Bi since you don't know what sex dwarfs were and Pepe could like that bisexual bend to it. And I wondered why if Madame was straight why was she interested in Bendigo. Now knowing about the 'Bugger and sod' it makes sense. I guess being a Yank (no pun intended) I missed out on that.
Now the book makes more sense and I might need to read it again soon.
The only thing that confuses me is when Madame is telling Glenda about being a female as a King, but being a Queen then he/she is king. But that makes sense. Being an old 'Queen'! OH! an A-HA moment! An Old QUEEN!!!!!!
This is why I love Terry. All the little hidden gems and Jewels (
) you can find after many readings and picking aparts!
that, in a nutshell.
now i'm only waiting for a discussion about the agony aunts' sex, somehow they always read male to me.
